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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 13, 2007 4:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Embarrassed but wiser...Whoops! Sorry...this is not an ad!

CLIFF and Wineland put me on to some late March (1968) AUDs, and I learned my lesson well. Check out the shows from 3-26 thru the 30th, right here (sorry, cannot copy and paste links right now), and you will be pleasantly surprised, as I was. The shows have some flaws, cuts, and partials, but WTF, they are right here, right now, ready to be downloaded and played to your heart's content... They have that great "hall echo" that so many acousticians have spoken of--something about the place and the luck of those recording give it a great feel...a bit muffled, but such a nice, warm sensation that you'll love it...even if you're a SBD snob like me. Trust me--they are right about these shows. You learn something every day. Thanks, C & W; still waiting for the brother to return those disks (and my boxes and booklet!?!), Wineland!
This post was modified by William Tell on 2007-09-13 22:45:04
This post was modified by William Tell on 2007-09-13 23:14:42

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Poster: He Live's Date: Sep 13, 2007 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Embarrassed but wiser...Whoops! Sorry...this is not an ad!

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=146747

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 14, 2007 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Embarrassed but wiser...Whoops! Sorry...this is not an ad!

Thanks--I suppose we really have talked about most all there is to talk about around here...what often happens is that someone wasn't really engaged the first time around, or a new person jumps on the topic in a slightly different fashion...

What's great is that when someone remembers and posts the link to the original discussion, and within that link you find a link to an older discussion, you can quickly grasp what a crap load of stuff has been provided on it...

In this case, as an "AUD anti-snob" I had to learn my lesson and then could appreciate what the folks, like yourself, and CLIFF, etc., had to offer...

Thanks.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 13, 2007 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Embarrassed but wiser...

Ahh, so much we DONT know about March-June 1968!

Re-mastered these performances could be completely mind blowing...

The Melodyland show (3/26) is tough, low levels and all, but the Dark Star is worth checking out, if only for historical purposed.


3/29/68 is simply amazing! The band, and particularly Jer are performing at an extremely high intensity, as evidenced by the Cryptical/Other One suite and what is probably the best ever New Potato Caboose, on this solid B+ Vernon AUD!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-03-29.aud.vernon.9473.sbeok.shnf


The 3/30/68 Carousel show is not far behind, featuring
a mind-bending Born Cross Eyed -> Feedback -> Spanish Jam segment highlighted by some snappy drumming and cool Pig organ-work on the B/B+ Cotsman AUD!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-03-30.aud.cotsman.14912.sbeok.shnf


The third Carousel, tragically incomplete, includes some pretty sick Garcia guitar work on the excellent version of Caution.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-03-31.aud.cotsman.14913.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 13, 2007 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

"There you go...click on your link."

As Pig was one to say...speaking of which, I love the interplay between Pig and Jerry in OOne jams between verses...throughout 68, and easily detected in, eg, Two from the Vault, you hear Pig (not TC, yet) give a little riff, and then Jerry burns one screaming on the next vocal pause, before Pig finishes it off...just listen to it during Bob's first verse. Their interplay is something special.

Great stuff.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Sep 13, 2007 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

tell ya what, if they do ever open up the vault up commercially, like dowloading, i would lay down some green for some yet unreleased 68. not 69 since there is so much out there, but 68 for sure. then again i heard, that they don'e even have that much 68 in the vault, wonder if that's true or not

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 13, 2007 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

Ain't that the truth? From what I have read, and heard, a lot is not available, period. But, the Avalon shows in October, or one of the December shows that the Doc and I so love, would be a worthy selection.

Really not many shows in circulation, and a lot have cuts, missing tracks, etc.

Still love it.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Sep 17, 2007 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

Many of the late 1967--early 1968 shows were sliced up for Anthem. After they finalized the snippets for Anthem, they did not record until they got the bigger deck to play with (October). Take what you can from the audiences.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 13, 2007 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

You know, all my beloved "ballroom" shows from January '68 are in the vault! They schlepped around the 16 track for Anthem. Guess they are saving em' for a rainy day?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 13, 2007 5:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

Ah yes--in spite of my recent attraction to March, I like January more...in fact, lister that I be, I would rank it the following way:

Oct
Dec
Aug
Jan
Jun
Feb
Mar

For the year as a whole...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 13, 2007 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

list·er (noun)
A plow equipped with a double moldboard that turns up the soil on each side of the furrow, often having an attached drill for seed planting.

list·er (noun)
One who lists.

just curious, do you list right or left

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 13, 2007 6:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thanks CLIFF; PS listen to Pig & Jerry!

Depends on which side my seed comes up I suppose.

Good one.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 14, 2007 1:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1968

My favorite AUDs from '68 are actually the 5/18 and 6/14 shows.....most sane people would consider them unlistenable, but these may have been the hottest months the Dead ever played. We'll never really know since nobody was recording them. For all the thousands of recordings of the Dead, it's still pretty sad that most of '67 and '68 are just gone.